iamforart:

kitkatnat:

dcwomenkickingass:

When the very first rumors of the DC Comics reboot begin slipping out a year ago I predicted that DC would split up Lois and Clark. Quite a few people thought it was an outrageous thought. Others called me full of shit.

Well, we all know how that prediction turned out,…

Hey, Matt!

Eh, fuck DC Comics. This is why, when it comes to Superman, I’m only paying attention to the Smallville comic from now on, and I hope they leave BQM alone so he can continue to do his awesome thing with that book in peace. 

All I’m hoping now is that Lois gets treated with respect in the upcoming movie, because she (and Clark) sure as hell aren’t being treated as such in the comics (again, outside of SV). 

themotormouth:

cbrownjc:

themotormouth:

I know people laugh and think it’s okay cause she’s a kooky fundamentalist Christian conservative, but I actually admire how she sticks to her beliefs. I wouldn’t mind so much if the ways they fucked her over weren’t so underhanded. Like dangling her ambitions in front of her, then yanking them away? Let’s not pretend her gender doesn’t severely handicap her in that regard, either. She’s an ambitious woman in a man’s world but we keep laughing when someone kicks her down. Idk, it just rubs me the wrong way and I feel sad for her, not triumphant for Fitz or whatever.

Stick to her beliefs? The woman is a pro-lifer who gave permission for her 13-14 year old daughter to have an abortion. So yeah, maybe she sticks to her beliefs, but only when those beliefs don’t affect or impact her own personal life. 

Woman in a man’s world or not, she’s a hypocrite. (Something, again, I’ve observed in too many right-wing conservatives over the years). So no, I feel absolutely no sympathy for her.  

I have to go out, so I don’t have time for more, but I think the show’s actually been pretty fair to Sally’s character, especially in the finale. Just like everyone on the show, she has damaging secrets that, in this instance IMO, was fairly used against her.    

I never said I agreed with her beliefs. She would get much closer to her goal of being President if she goes along with everything Fitz believes/says but she doesn’t. And why are we taking Fitz’s word on this abortion scandal? It’s a much more complicated issue than that and we don’t know what her relationship with her daughter is like or the specifics of the situation that led to the abortion. For all we know, her daughter was raped and now her views on abortion are slowly evolving.

This has nothing to do with agreeing with her political beliefs. I don’t. This is about sticking to those beliefs and not being a hypocrite about them. I don’t agree with pretty much anything Sarah Palin says, but when her daughter Bristol got pregnant as a teenager, out of wedlock, they stuck to their pro-life beliefs, and Bristol had the baby.

I’m not saying I couldn’t feel sympathy for Sally Langdon’s daughter’s situation whatever it was. But what I do not tolerate are people who would not show that same kind of sympathy to other people - in this case women - and fight to take their rights away to give them the same kind of choice in such a situation that Sally’s daughter had. That is just straight-up hypocritical, and I have no tolerance for such a thing. 

As to why should I believe Fitz on this? Well one, it was Cyrus and Olivia who gave Fitz the opposition research about it. We already knew from last week’s episode that Cyrus and Liv did opposition research on Sally during the primary campaign. (When they found out she apparently snorted cocaine while in college). Secondly, Sally didn’t deny it when Fitz brought it up. Being a pro-lifer, I would think she would deny something like that if it wasn’t true.       

I would agree that she’s fairly punished for her hypocrisy if I actually saw the male characters equally punished. Are we going to pretend Fitz and Cyrus are fairly punished? Fitz pretends to be in love with his wife for the country, tells Olivia he loves her, and still screws an aide (who is killed because he couldn’t keep it in his pants). Where was his punishment? Cyrus has an innocent girl killed and his biggest problem is whether he should adopt a baby or not. Billy is somewhat punished for killing Gideon (assuming he’s dead) but his crime is far, far greater than Sally’s. They use trifling personal ‘scandals’ to bring her down like she’s some naughty child who needs to be put in her place. When it comes to characters like Billy, Fitz and Cyrus, the things they’re ‘punished’ for (assuming they are at all) are much greater and more important (murder, sex with questionable consent). 

But how was Sally punishment harsher than the male characters? Did she lose her position as VP? No she didn’t. Was the news of her daughter’s abortion leaked to the press? No it wasn’t. Did Fitz or anyone else make it impossible for her to run for President herself one day? No they didn’t. 

All she ended up having to do was back Fitz up and throw Billy under the bus. (Billy, who was guilty of murder - and was the one who really got the harshest punishment because while he DID kill Gideon, he didn’t kill Amanda but was thought to have, and so Huck sent Charlie to do away with him). No harm whatsoever really came to her, and as for her strong beliefs she compromised them herself when she gave permission for the abortion.

So really, her punishment was just as lacking in all of this as Fitz’s was. She never had to own up to the public on her hypocrisy, and is still sitting pretty to maybe become President one day down the line. Fitz at least was ready to give up the Presidency and his power when it looked like their was no other option because of his behavior.     

She’s a character I love to hate, honestly, but the repeated knocking down of her character for the stupidest of reasons is getting old. Like, give me a real reason why I should be cheering for her destruction. Not her daughter getting an abortion against her mother’s beliefs (and really, wouldn’t it be a form of abuse to force her daughter to have the child? She can still disapprove and give her legal permission for the abortion. The two actions aren’t mutually exclusive.)

And see, I disagree. Because she would fight to not give other girls/women the same choice that her daughter apparently had in terminating her pregnancy. That’s her political position. (Cyrus said it - if Sally were president, women would loose the right to choose). What you just described is being pro-choice but personally being pro-life … which, I myself actually am. I personally would never have an abortion, but I would never fight to stop other women from making that choice for themselves.

But that’s what Sally Langston would do. Take away any woman’s right to chose to have a baby or have an abortion. And that is what makes her a hypocrite. Because when it came to her own daughter, a choice was made on what to do because Sally (and her daughter) had a legal choice on what to do. A legal choice Sally is against giving to other women.    

And honestly, I don’t see where we’re supposed to be cheering for her destruction. Personally, while I can’t stand her politics, the show actually went out of it’s way to show that Sally knew nothing of what Billy tried to do or that she was in any way trying to bring down Fitz. She has her beliefs which are to the right of the President, but while the show - in it’s meta narrative - dosen’t appear to share the VPs political beliefs, it went out of it’s way in this very episode IMO to show that while she may be an antagonist, she’s not some grand villain who’s destruction we’re meant to cheer for.

JIMO.     

themotormouth:

I know people laugh and think it’s okay cause she’s a kooky fundamentalist Christian conservative, but I actually admire how she sticks to her beliefs. I wouldn’t mind so much if the ways they fucked her over weren’t so underhanded. Like dangling her ambitions in front of her, then yanking them away? Let’s not pretend her gender doesn’t severely handicap her in that regard, either. She’s an ambitious woman in a man’s world but we keep laughing when someone kicks her down. Idk, it just rubs me the wrong way and I feel sad for her, not triumphant for Fitz or whatever.

Stick to her beliefs? The woman is a pro-lifer who gave permission for her 13-14 year old daughter to have an abortion. So yeah, maybe she sticks to her beliefs, but only when those beliefs don’t affect or impact her own personal life. 

Woman in a man’s world or not, she’s a hypocrite. (Something, again, I’ve observed in too many right-wing conservatives over the years). So no, I feel absolutely no sympathy for her.  

I have to go out, so I don’t have time for more, but I think the show’s actually been pretty fair to Sally’s character, especially in the finale. Just like everyone on the show, she has damaging secrets that, in this instance IMO, was fairly used against her.